The Iron Rod Podcast
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Iron Rod 176 - D&C 135, 136, and 138

In this episode we finish off the Doctrine and Covenants with the three sections that were written after Joseph’s death. Trigger alert: these posthumous sections contradict previous scripture!


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4 comments on “Iron Rod 176 – D&C 135, 136, and 138

  1. Brandon May 1, 2022

    Next project: Decentralized and unchangeable scriptures on the Ethereum blockchain! 😉
    Thanks for everything guys. You’ve been a big help in getting me to think critically and to figure this stuff out for myself instead of just trusting in the arm of the flesh. I hope to hear from you guys soon.

  2. John Crane May 1, 2022

    With you finishing up, this gives me a chance to go back and catch up on the previous podcasts. I started listening with Podcast 140. I listen and takes noted every week.

    Three points on Section 138.

    President Joseph F. Smith died during the Spanish Flu epidemic, and there was no public funeral.

    Joseph F. Smith did not believe in Brigham Young’s Adam-God theory/doctrine. In fact, in his vision mentions that among the spiriting waiting for their redemption was: “Among the great and mighty ones who were assembled in this vast congregation of the righteous were Father Adam, the Ancient of Days and father of all,” (D&C 138:38) Brigham Young taught that Adam was an exalted being who impregnated Mary, the mother of Jesus. So, if a person believes in this vision, they cannot believe Adam-God, as taught by Brigham Young.

    You pointed out a lot of contradictions that I missed, but here is one more. “The dead who repent will be redeemed, through obedience to the ordinances of the house of God.” (D&C 138:58). You pointed out that the dead who repent will be redeemed. But you should have also mentioned the inconsistency that their redemption will come througth “the ordinances of the house of God”, not through Christ.

  3. I have always found 138 interesting. For one it was accepted as “scripture” on Halloween. At the time he would’ve had the right to be patriarch of the church as the oldest living in Hyrum’s line so it’s possible he really did have a vision but perhaps he filtered it through his own understanding.

    Section 76 has these verses that have always intrigued me concerning the preaching of the gospel after death: 86 These are they who receive not of his fulness in the eternal world, but of the Holy Spirit through the ministration of the terrestrial;
    87 And the terrestrial through the ministration of the celestial.
    88 And also the telestial receive it of the administering of angels who are appointed to minister for them, or who are appointed to be ministering spirits for them; for they shall be heirs of salvation.

  4. Thank you so much for all your hard work and dedication to the podcast! I’ve enjoyed listening to it every week even though I haven’t been able to comment as much as I would like. I understand all of the time and effort involved in preparing, recording, and editing the podcast. It’s a well deserved break.

    If ends up being a hiatus, rather than an end and you get energized to do some more, I think you could contribute greatly by covering the changes in the Joseph Smith translation of the Bible. That’s something not readily found in the work of Biblical scholars.

    When you covered Section 132, it occurred to me that the Lord continually commanded the Saints to publish the new translation and that it was necessary for the salvation of the church. Was it the failure to publish the translation that opened the door for the Saints to be deceived about polygamy? Would the translation have kept them from worshiping a false god?

    I also really enjoy your LDS conference re-caps.

    Regardless, I want you both to know that I’ve been blessed to be able to follow the journey in your podcasts as you relentlessly stick to the word of God and dispatch the philosophies of men!