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In this episode we cover the experiences of the brother of Jared, including being chastised by the Lord for three hours (!), proposing that the Lord touch the stones to make them shine, and the veil of unbelief being removed from his eyes and seeing the Lord.
2 Nephi 1:6
Psalm 17:13-14
Judges 2:11-23
D&C 84:49
D&C 103:15-17
D&C 1:32
2 Nephi 26:10-11
Mormon 5:16-18
Ether 12:19-21
Ether 5:15
Alma 19:6
D&C 38:7-8
D&C 67:10-13
Moses 7:3
D&C 113
I think there is a better way to view the brother of Jared’s need for light in the barges. The lord tells him outright that he (the brother of Jared) can’t solve this one. Windows and fire wont work. There is no other practical solution. God tells him that he (God) will need to do something miraculous to provide the needed light. The record doesn’t credit the brother of Jared with having worked it out or having exercised any faith in the matter. I strongly believe we miss the point of this story. The glory is all God’s. The brother of Jared could have presented 16 grand pianos and the lord would have lit them up. The point is that God is the light of the world and we merit nothing by our own works. The traditional interpretation comes from the manuals of the corporate church. Being a humble guy the brother of Jared simply thought to present something pure seeing as God is pure. Also, I cant remember where, but I did once see info that said Noah got light in the ark by the same means. If the brother of Jared knew this then it just shows that he did zero thinking on the matter.
Great show as always. My wife and I have listened to every episode since you started out.
I enjoyed the discussion about the veil. One point that I noticed in the text was the importance of believing God’s words. “For thou art a God of truth and canst not lie.” (Ether 3:12) Enos also “knew that God could not lie” (Enos 1:6). And the faith of Abraham was based on believing God would keep His promises, even when logic indicated that would be impossible. “And he believed in the Lord; and he counted it to him for righteousness.” (Gen. 15:6)
The discussion reiterated the importance of shedding false beliefs, so my question is whether or not is even possible for people to discern truth when they are willing to tolerate lies in their own lives. Do we tolerate shades of gray where the truth is concerned? If so, our internal truth detectors might be out of alignment to where we can’t even discern truth when it smacks us upside the head. If we are fed lies on a daily basis, through the media through our relationships, and even lying to ourselves, how do you identify and embrace truth? I think the natural reaction would be to reject it because it would contradict the world you have chosen to live in.
“Intelligence, or the light of truth, was not created or made, neither indeed can be.” (D&C 93:29)
“The glory of God is intelligence, or in other words, light and truth. Light and truth forsake that evil one.” (D&C 93:36-37)
“For the word of the Lord is truth, and whatsoever is truth is light, and whatsoever is light is Spirit, even the Spirit of Jesus Christ.” (D&C 84:45)
“For intelligence cleaveth unto intelligence; wisdom receiveth wisdom; truth embraces truth; virtue loveth virtue; light cleaveth unto light,…” (D&C 88:40)
One final thought: “Surely they are my people, children that will not lie; so he was their Saviour. In all their affliction he was afflicted, and the angel of his presence saved them; in his love and in his pity he redeemed them; and he bare them, and carried them all the days of old.” (Isaiah 63:8-9)