Iron Rod 037 – Degrees of Glory: Celestial and Terrestrial
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The three degrees of glory is a central tenet in the LDS Church, and shapes many aspects of LDS doctrine. But how closely does the theology we are taught actually agree with the scriptures upon which it is supposedly based? This week we search the scriptures to understand what they actually say about the celestial and terrestrial categories of people. Prepare to have your traditions challenged by scripture.

2 Nephi 9:15-18
Mosiah 16:10-11

Mormon 3:20

D&C 29:27-28, 43-45

Alma 41:3-6

3 Nephi 26:4-5

3 Nephi 27:14-19

3 Nephi 28:7-8, 36-40

Helaman 14:31

Matthew 25:31-34, 41, 46

Mosiah 5:8-10

1 Nephi 14:10

1 Nephi 22:24-26

Alma 12:8

Alma 40:12-17

D&C 76:15-17, 50-80, 94-95

D&C 109:73-76

D&C 88:4-5, 94-99

D&C 93:21-22

1 Thessalonians 4:16

Jacob 4:11

D&C 45:8, 16, 45-47, 54-59

Revelation 21:1-4

Revelation 20:4, 6

Revelation 19:20

Revelation 12:17

Revelation 3:5

Alma 5:58

D&C 133:56

D&C 63:20-21, 49-54

Moroni 8:22

D&C 90:9-11

D&C 25:1

D&C 11:30

D&C 84:100

Moses 1:61-64

D&C 43:29-33

D&C 101:26-31


Iron Rod 036 – Restoration or resurrection?
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When we have an incorrect understanding of one aspect of the gospel, it can prevent us from correctly understanding other aspects of the gospel. We need to correct our initial misunderstandings before we can successfully move forward. The scriptures talk about our bodies being restored, and our bodies being resurrected, and we incorrectly assume those are the same thing. In this episode, we focus in on what the prophets mean when they talk about this restoration, and begin to explain the impact that has on the plan of salvation as we know it.

Ezekiel 37:1-28

2 Nephi 10:2, 7

Alma 11:43-45

Alma 12:20

Alma 40:22-24

Alma 41:1-4, 10-14

D&C 76:72-74

D&C 43:30-32

D&C 63:50-52

D&C 128:12-13

D&C 101:29-31

3 Nephi 28:8

1 Nephi 15:19:20

2 Nephi 30:7-8

D&C 45:17

 

Iron Rod 035 – God’s Divine Council
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The Book of Abraham tells us about the council in heaven. But did you know the Old Testament also talks about God’s council? Perhaps one reason we don’t hear about this at church is because the Old Testament references paint a different picture of who sits on this council and how it functions than what we are taught in Sunday School. Prepare to have your traditions challenged by the word of God!

Abraham 3:22-24, 4:26, 5:2

Psalm 82:1-8

Psalm 89:5-8

Job 1:6, 2:1

1 Kings 22:19-23

Daniel 4:13-17

1 Samuel 23:1-13

Jeremiah 23:18

Genesis 11

Genesis 10

Deuteronomy 4:19-20

Deuteronomy 29:24-26

Deuteronomy 32:8-24-26

2 Kings 5:17-19

Acts 2

Acts 17:22-27

 

Iron Rod 034 – Noah’s nakedness and women’s hair
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In this week’s episode, we take two hard-to-explain sections of scripture and try to make sense of them. The first is Noah’s nakedness from Genesis 9. Noah is drunk in his tent, Ham sees his father’s nakedness, and for some reason Ham’s son Canaan is punished as a result. The second is from 1 Corinthians 11 and has Paul explaining why women need to cover their hair when at church. Both stories demonstrate how trying to interpret scripture using “our” understanding can lead us astray.

Genesis 9:19-27

Abraham 1:21-27

Leviticus 20:11,20

Leviticus 18:1-8

Deuteronomy 22:30

Deuteronomy 27:20

2 Samuel 16:20-23

Genesis 35:22

Genesis 49:3-4

1 Corinthians 11:3-15

2 Nephi 31:3

Dr. Troy Martin, “Paul’s Argument from Nature for the Veil in 1 Cor. 11:13-15: A Testicle instead of a Head Covering” (Journal of Biblical Literature 123:1 [2004]: 75-84)

Bergsma and Hahn, “Noah’s Nakedness and the Curse on Canaan (Genesis 9:20-27)” (Journal of Biblical Literature 124:1 [2005]: 25-40)

Iron Rod 033 – False prophets
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Scripture informs us that there will be many who are deceived by false prophets in the last days. In this episode we explore what the Word of God teaches about false prophets and how we can identify them in order to avoid being deceived.  We analyze and apply what these Scriptures have to say to prophets both within the Institutional Church and to several groups that have splintered off recently.

3 Nephi 14:15-20
HC 4:574
Jeremiah 23:25-26, 37
Matthew 24:11, 23-24
2 Peter 2:1-4
2 Corinthians 11:13-15
Revelation 19:20
D&C 45:57
Joseph Smith Matthew 1:37
2 Timothy 4:3-4
Joseph Smith Discourse 12 May 1844
2 Nephi 26:29
3 Nephi 27:10-11
Isaiah 66:7-8
D&C 88:62-66
D&C 63:32
Deruteronomy 31:17-18
Isaiah 54:8
Lectures on Faith 6
Mormon 9:19-20
Romans 16:17-18
Galatians 1:6-9

Iron Rod 032 – Divorce
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Casually reading what the scriptures have to say about divorce can be confusing. The Law of Moses spells out the process of divorce and makes it clear that people are allowed to remarry after divorce. Yet in the New Testament Jesus makes comments that appear to condemn divorce and equate remarriage with adultery. In this episode we dig into the Greek and Hebrew, demonstrate the scriptural difference between putting away and divorce, and show how bad translations have significantly changed what Jesus was criticizing, and how the corrected view is consistent with ancient and modern scripture.

Deuteronomy 24:1-4

Jeremiah 3:1

Deuteronomy 22:13-19, 28-39

Malachi 2:14-16

Matthew 5:31-32

3 Nephi 12:27-32

Matthew 19:3-9

Luke 16:18

Mark 10:11-12

1 Corinthian 7:10-15

D&C 42:22-26, 74-77

D&C 49:15-17

Article on Marriage (1835 D&C 101)

Romans 7:1-3

1 Corinthians 7:8-9

1 Timothy 5:14

Iron Rod 031 – The Presiding Patriarch
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The office of Presiding Patriarch was introduced in the 1830’s when Joseph Smith Sr. was ordained to that office and told that he and his posterity would hold that office. In D&C 124, the Lord specifies the duties of that office and called Hyrum to the office of Presiding Patriarch after the death of his father. Upon the death of Hyrum, efforts began immediately to minimize and marginalize the Presiding Patriarch, until in 1979 the leadership just got rid of the office. In addition to discussing what the office is supposed to be, and what that means for us today, we also reveal the traditionally accepted date of the introduction of the Presiding Patriarch is wrong, and how the actual date fits perfectly into the downgraded-church timeline.

D&C 124:28, 91-96, 123-143

D&C 104

D&C 107:39

Matthew 23:15

Iron Rod 030 – Elijah and John the Baptist
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D&C 2 tells us that the Priesthood will be revealed by the hand of Elijah. But the scriptural record tells us nothing about Elijah conferring priesthood by hand to Joseph. The one conferral of priesthood by the hand of an angel we have record of is John the Baptist conferring the priesthood of Aaron. In this episode, we look at the scriptural links between Elijah and John the Baptist and discuss radical concepts introduced in the Inspired Version of the Bible. We kick the episode off with an email from a bishop, and a discussion about birthday parties.

Birthday parties:

Matthew 14:1-11

Mark 6:21-29

Matthew 23:5-7

Matthew 20:25

 

D&C 2

James 5:17-18

JST Genesis 14:26-32

Helaman 10:5-12

Helaman 11:4-6

Joseph Smith History 1:68-74

D&C 110:12-16

Luke 7:28

John 1:19-22

Mark 9:1-13

Luke 9:30

Matthew 17:1-13

Luke 1:15-17

D&C 84:28

D&C 98:16

Hebrews 9:27

D&C 45:60-61

D&C 42:14-15

D&C 43:56-58

HC 1:341, 4:425

Iron Rod 029 – The office of bishop
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The scriptures give fairly specific descriptions of the duties of a bishop, and as we discussed last week, that the bishop should be paid for his duties. This week we review just what the scriptures dictate that a bishop should do, and compare that with what the current role of the bishop is.

1 Timothy 3:1-6
Titus 1:5-9
1 Peter 2:25
Acts 1:20
D&C 41:9-10
D&C 42:30-35, 71-73
D&C 46:11-27
D&C 48:6
D&C 51:1-6, 10-15
D&C 57:15
D&C 58:17-20
D&C 64:37-40
D&C 85:1
D&C 68:13-24
D&C 84:29
D&C 90:30
D&C 107:72
D&C 119:1-2
D&C 120:1
Malachi 4
D&C 20:45
D&C 46:2
Moroni 6:9
Matthew 23:11-12
Luke 22:24-27
D&C 72:9-12

Iron Rod 028 – Paid clergy? Yes and no
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Mormonism has a complicated relationship with paying church leaders. We have scriptures that condemn priestcrafts and the Church has often bragged about not having a paid clergy. Yet the church also defends paying Church leaders a “living stipend”. This episode searches out what the scriptures have to say, a reveals that the D&C commands that some leaders be paid while others must not be paid…the only problem is today’s Church does the exact opposite!

2 Nephi 26:29-31

D&C 105:5

Numbers 18:

Luke 9:1-6

Matthew 10:5-11

Acts 3:1-9

Luke 10:1-9

1 Timothy 6:8

Acts 18:1-4

1 Corinthians 9:1-18

Mosiah 18:24-28

Mosiah 27:5

Alma 1:26

Alma 30:32-34

Alma 31:35-38

Alma 8:19-21

3 Nephi 13:25-34

D&C 24:18

D&C 84:77-91

D&C 70:12-14

D&C 107:68

Lectures on Faith 6:7

HC 2:300

D&C 42:71-73

Iron Rod 027 – The LDS endowment, more or less
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The modern LDS church teaches that within temples we can receive ordinances beyond baptism that are necessary for our salvation. These ordinances are so sacred that they aren’t even mentioned in the scriptures, yet we are told that they have been revealed to prophets in every dispensation since Adam. This week we explore these claims and test them against what the scriptures teach. Could millions of people truly be suffering under delusion?

2 Thessalonians 2:10-11

2 Nephi 26:23

Isaiah 45:19

Isaiah 48:16

2 Nephi 9:41

D&C 110:9

D&C 124:28, 39, 40

Jeremiah 23:10

Isaiah 48:1

3 Nephi 12:33-37

Moses 5:29

Isaiah 28

Isaiah 1

2 Thessalonians 2:3-4

Moroni 10:30-31

Isaiah 52:5

D&C 63:61-63

Isaiah 5:13

D&C 85:7

Daniel 7:21-22

Hosea 8:14

Iron Rod 026 – More or less than this cometh of evil
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Scripture teaches that the Gospel at its core is very simple. Jesus himself declared His doctrine to be faith, repentance and baptism (of water and fire) and then stated that “more or less” than this cometh of evil. In this episode we delve into the many scriptural evidences of the simplicity of the Gospel and begin to contrast these scriptural teachings with the complexity of  current LDS doctrine.  This episode is required listening in preparation for our next episode which will discuss the LDS temple endowment ceremony.

D&C 10:67-68

3 Nephi 11:35-40

D&C 39:5-6

3 Nephi 18:10-12

Mormon 7:8-10

Matthew 11:28-30

D&C 22

Mormon 9:23

2 Peter 3:15-16

Lectures on Faith 1:12

Galatians 3:6

Lectures on Faith 7:7

D&C 45:8

Alma 33:2

Ephesians 2:4

Romans 5: 1-11

2 Nephi 32:3-7

Jacob 4:14

Galatians 1:6-8

2 Nephi 28:14

2 Corinthians 11:3-4

D&C 42:12

D&C 66:2

D&C 124:28

Daniel 7:21-22

D&C 76:51-54

Moroni 10:7, 32-33

Iron Rod 025 – The Word of Wisdom
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Perhaps one of the most iconic practices of modern Mormonism is the prohibition of alcohol, tobacco, coffee, and tea. Failure to adhere to the current interpretation is grounds for disciplinary action and considered a sign a spiritual weakness. Yet is wasn’t always so. Not only does the modern interpretation conflict with the original interpretation during the life of Joseph Smith, it also conflicts with other scriptures. This week’s episode discusses what the scriptures say, and what happened historically to go from a word of wisdom given not by commandment or by constraint, to an absolute requirement for coming unto Christ through baptism.

1 Corinthians 3:16-17
Matthew 15:17-20
Leviticus 10:8-11
Deuteronomy 14:26
Judges 9:13
Psalm 104:14-15
Isaiah 5:11
Proverbs 23:20
Ephesians 5:18
1 Peter 4:3
Colossians 2:16-20
Romans 14:13-21
1 Timothy 3:8
1 Timothy 5:23
Luke 7:33-34
Joel 1:5
Acts 3:13-15
Matthew 9:17
D&C 89
D&C 27:2-4
1 Corinthians 11:20-22
History of the Church 2:369, 2:378, 5:8; 2:406, 4:330; 7:101
Journal of Discourses 8:361, 16:238, 9:35,

Iron Rod 024 – Identifying the False Traditions of Our Fathers
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Pilate famously asked, “What is truth?” It’s a relevant question for our day and age as we are faced with contradictions between what is preached from the pulpit and what is written in scripture. Watcher makes a special appearance this week to discuss how we can identify the false traditions we inherit, and how we can correct course when our navigators are pointing us in the wrong direction.

Key scriptures:
3 Nephi 11:39-40
D&C 88:77-78
Hosea  4:5-6
D&C 93:39
D&C 84:54-55
Ephesians 2:20
1 Timothy 4:1
2 Timothy 2:15
2 Thessalonians 2:11
Isaiah 28:15
2 Nephi 27:25
2 Nephi 28
Mormon 8
Ether 4
Deuteronomy 31:28-29
2 Nephi 3:5
D&C 45:28

Iron Rod 023 – Can our leaders lead us astray?
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One modern doctrine that is repeated quite often is that the leaders of the LDS Church cannot lead the people astray. Even if they wanted to, God would take away their agency and end their lives before allowing them to lead the people astray. While this doctrine is taught from the pulpit as an absolute promise from God, the scriptures have something different to say about the leaders in the last days. We review what God has spoken through his ancient prophets about the latter-day shepherds and leaders of the house of Israel.

2 Nephi 28:14
2 Nephi 13:12
2 Nephi 19:14-16
D&C 33:4
2 Nephi 26:29-31
Isaiah 28:7
3 Nephi 23:1-3
Jeremiah 50:6
Amos 2:4
Jeremiah 16:19
D&C 123:7-8
D&C 109:32, 62
Isaiah 28:14-15
Micah 3:5-7
Isaiah 5:5-6
2 Nephi 28:20-21
Isaiah 30:9-11
Ezekiel 14
Isaiah 56:9-12
Jeremiah 23
D&C 84:54-58
Mark 12:24
Alma 33:2
D&C 10:63
Hosea 4:6
2 Nephi 27:35
3 Nephi 16:10-12
Jeremiah 5:30-31
D&C 64:38

Iron Rod 022 – Baptism by water and baptism by fire
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Iron Rod 021 – Sealing
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Modern Mormon doctrine emphasizes the need for families to be sealed together for eternity through certain temple ordinances beyond baptism. In this episode we explore what the scriptures have to say about sealing and trace the history of the Law of Adoption that has morphed over time to what is practiced today.

Spoiler alert: Once you listen to this podcast you will know why Utah is the world epicenter of pyramid schemes.

Scriptures cited include:
Mosiah 5:15
Alma 34:35
D&C 68:12, 76:52-53, 1:8-9
Ephesians 1:13-14, 4:30
2 Corinthians 1:22
2 Nephi 33:15
Helaman 10:4-11

Iron Rod 020 – The Name of the Father
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Modern Mormonism teaches that Elohim is the name of the Father, and Jehovah is the name of Jesus before his earthly ministry. This is taught in the temple and from the pulpit. But it’s not taught from the scriptures. In this episode, we review how the scriptures use Elohim and Jehovah to consistently paint a dramatically different picture than what the LDS Church paints. We also review the how this doctrine changed over the course of 75 years until it finally stabilized on what we know today.

Key Scriptures:
Deuteronomy 6:4, 13:1-5, 28:13-14
Exodus 15:11, 20:1-3
Judges 10:11-13
Joshua 22:22, 24:19
1 Kings 8:23, 9:3
Jeremiah 7:11, 23:18
Psalms 97:9
John 1:1-3, 2:16, 10:29, 14:28, 17:11
Isaiah 42:8, 45:5
Moses 4:2
Philippians 2:5-11
Ezekiel 1:1-3
Ether 3:14, 4:12
3 Nephi 1:14
Mosiah 3:5, 7:27, 13:34, 15:1-5
Mormon 5:17, 9:12
Moses 1:6
JST Luke 10:22

Iron Rod 019 – Coming to Know the Lord by Caring for the Poor
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The Lord teaches us in scripture that tithing is to be used primarily for the poor. In this episode, we explore how we can come to know the Lord through dealing justly with the poor who will always be among us. We also discuss how we are actually stealing form the poor through our corrupted tithing system and share how we personally have chosen to address this situation.

 

Scriptures cited include:

Matthew 7:22-23
JST Matthew 25:11
D&C 112:24-26
Jeremiah 22:16
Psalms 140:12
Deuteronomy 15:11
Psalms 41:1
Proverbs 14:21
Proverbs 28:27
James 1:27
Mormon 8:35-37
2 Nephi 13:12-15
2 Nephi 28:12-14
Matthew 25:31-45
D&C 119
D&C 52:40
D&C 104:18
D&C 38:35
D&C 83:6
D&C 85:3
JST Genesis 14:37-39
Proverbs 22:22-23

 

 

Iron Rod 018 – The Holy Ghost
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This week’s topic has several interesting angles: are the Holy Ghost and the Holy Spirit the same thing or different?  Is the Holy Ghost a personage? What is the gift of the Holy Ghost and how does one receive it? Can we receive it today? Not only do we answer those questions, but there’s also a special musical number by Searcher.

D&C 130:22-23
Lectures on Faith 5:2, questions 13 and 14
D&C 20:41
D&C 33:15
2 Nephi 31:14
Alma 9:21
Alma 13:10-12
Acts 2:2-4
Acts 10:44-47
Acts 19:5-6
D&C 55:1
3 Nephi 19:11-14
Moroni 2:1-2
Hebrews 2:4
Helaman 5:43-50
3 Nephi 7:21-22
Moroni 6:9